The Reason Churches Protect Abusers and Cast Out Victims is that they do not Fear a Holy God

Most all of you know the sickening pattern. Wicked, evil person hiding in the church behind a disguise of “saint.” He victimizes the innocent who then cry out for justice. Victims are marginalized, disbelieved, silenced, and even thrown out of the assembly. The evil one? He is not only allowed to remain in the church, but he is often coddled, pitied, and even put into a ministry position?

Why? Why this same evil mantra pattern? Over and over it happens. Why?

Let me tell you. I believe I know the answer. First, read the following account of two deceivers in the early church – Ananias and his wife Sapphira.

Act 5:1-11 But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, (2) and with his wife’s knowledge he kept back for himself some of the proceeds and brought only a part of it and laid it…

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Full Homosexual Inclusion in the PCA?

The Origin, Objective and Deception of the Revoice Conference

Written by Chuck Williams | Tuesday, June 5, 2018

But the problem we have today is that the ‘gay-Christian’ community refuses to acknowledge such desires are sinful. In fact, they profess that to expect individuals with homosexual desires to repent of them would be a destructive burden to them, tantamount to denying who they were created to be. Hence, these individuals have no problem embracing these desires which only fuels their identity as a ‘gay-Christians.’ They embrace it and do so proudly. They confess no need to neither repent for these desires nor pursue any efforts at mortification. And why would they if they are not sinful?

With the emergence of the gay-Christian movement in the mid-1970s the church worldwide has been under assault to acquiesce to the former’s demands to grant full acceptance of homosexuals into the laity and clergy of every church. Over the next few decades numerous other LBGT groups with similar agendas began to form worldwide.

Since then over 200 denominations and churches have acquiesced to a full inclusion of practicing homosexuals into their ecclesiastical bodies. As a consequence, these churches also had to concede their theology and biblical views of scripture, creation, sin, redemption, practical holiness, ecclesiology, and eschatology to accommodate such an unwarranted appropriation. In essence, clergy sold a church that didn’t belong to them to sexual and social predators whose only interest was to violate her purity for their own ends. Yet some churches did not capitulate.

These latter churches were largely confessional in nature and who possessed strong commitments to sound biblical views of the church, evangelism, holiness of life, and discipline in all walks of life. Given such commitments these churches simply could not reconcile the demands of those in the gay-Christian movement with the clear biblical prohibitions against those who were active in sinful behavior, even if they did profess Christ.

It should be stated that virtually all evangelical churches have always maintained a very welcoming attitude to all unbelievers and those struggling with sin. After all, a true evangelical church’s mission is to bring the hope of salvation and redemption from sin through the Gospel message, and to make disciples of all men and nations (Matthew 28:19-20).

But the enemy knows full well that a highly effective tactic to defeat an opponent greater than itself is to defeat them from the inside. Our Lord taught us of this fact when He warned us that false teachers will don the clothing of sheep to ravage them once inside the flock (Matthew 7:15). Odysseus devised a giant hollow wooden horse, horses being sacred to the Trojans, to insert Spartan soldiers inside the walls of Troy.

Today’s homosexual activists have now appeared as confessing Christians who claim to “struggle” in their homosexual desires. They have even vowed to remain celibate while also affirming a biblical view of marriage as one solely between a man and a woman. But there is one major problem that many PCA pastors either cannot or will not acknowledge even when evidence is provided to the contrary.

The problem is this; these individuals who identity as ‘gay-Christians’ and celibate are actually quite unrepentant and unapologetic regarding their homosexual desires. So, the immediate question then becomes; just where is the suffering? If an individual sees no problem living with their sinful desires, then it can hardly be argued that they are truly suffering because of them.

Yet, many PCA pastors do not seem to care. And to further their own agenda to make a name for themselves they are quick to push the envelope to work for a full inclusion of these celibate gay-Christians in the church.  But in order to do so, these PCA pastors have willingly replaced their own biblical and confessional fidelity with several key progressive ideological tenets that would justify their arguments for inclusion. These tenets include:

·        Affirm that the teachings of Jesus provide but one of many ways to experience the sacredness and oneness of life.

·        Faith is more about a spiritual journey than Biblical conviction or commitments.

·        The heart of the gospel message shifts from sin and redemption to social justice

·        There is liberty to re-define historic and biblical terms if necessary.

·        Emotional stability of others supersedes the place of truth.

·        Seek full inclusiveness of all people in church community based on race, gender, sexual minorities.

This is exactly what happened in April 2015 at Christ Presbyterian Church (PCA) in Nashville Presbytery when its senior pastor hosted a Public Forum on Same-Sex Attraction. The main speaker for that event was a Covenant Theological Seminary student and PCA ministerial candidate who professes to be a gay-Christian and celibate. The event became a total promotion for the acceptance of gay-Christians in all areas of the church. The senior pastor himself heavily distorted scripture to affirm several pro-homosexual presuppositions which stated:

·        People with homosexual desires are born that way, like the eunuch in Matthew 19.

·        People with homosexual desires are born that way for the glory of God, like the blind man in John 9.

·        People with homosexual desires are born that way through no fault of their own, like the man born blind in John 9.

Shortly thereafter charges were submitted to the Nashville against this pastor. Yet, within weeks the Presbytery’s Committee of Judicial Business (CJB) absolved the senior pastor with a horrendous display of bad exegesis from James 1:14, stating that the “evil desires” in James 1:14 were only attractions and propensities which only led to temptations that were sinless.[1]

The case was then filed with the General Assembly’s Standing Judicial Commission (SJC) through a complaint from a pastor in Nashville Presbytery. Three years later the SJC concurred that the senior Pastor and the CJB did in fact engage in unbiblical exegesis in the matter and did acknowledge that the Nashville Presbytery failed to perform a sufficient investigation of the pastor. The SJC also noted in its concurring opinion two procedural failures of the Presbytery, especially with the CJB noting: “These procedural and exegetical concerns are not minor ones.” Yet, the SJC ironically voted to deny the complaint.

As a result, the failure of Nashville Presbytery, its CJB, and the SJC have now given a green light for other pro-homosexual pastors in the PCA to hold further conferences which are sure to promote the acceptance of even practicing homosexuality in the PCA. Welcome to the Revoice Conference.

In what now seems to be a consummation of sorts of this ignored encroachment of homosexuality in the PCA, a conference is planned and will be hosted in a PCA church which now appears to promote the inclusion of practicing homosexuality in the church. This conference is called Revoice. This conference will be held at Memorial Presbyterian Church in St. Louis, MO, July 26–28, 2018.

From the acceptance of those who merely claim to possess homosexual desires and vowing to remain to celibate to those who advocate the acceptance of practicing homosexuals in the PCA is quite the jump. A gap that can only be surmounted through some significant efforts at deception. Such deceptions are exactly what we see taking place throughout many social media on PCA pages. Three of the most prominent deception points include:

Deception Point #1: Revoices’ deceitfulness regarding the mission of Revoice.

TE Greg Johnson, the senior pastor of Memorial Presbyterian Church and the host for Revoice has been making his rounds to the relevant blogs defending the conference. In his article for the Aquila Report, ‘A Reply to ‘Queer Culture in the PCA?’ TE Johnson restates the mission statement of the conference.

“To encourage, support, and empower gay, lesbian, and other same-sex-attracted Christians so they can experience the life-giving character of the historic, Christian sexual ethic.”

However, one would have to dig back into the FAQ page link at the bottom of Revoice’s webpage to find this mission statement. However, at the top of Revocie’s webpage, very prominently displayed, is another mission statement of Revoice 2018 that reads:

“Supporting, encouraging, and empowering gay, lesbian, same-sex-attracted, and other LGBT Christians so they can flourish while observing the historic, Christian doctrine of marriage and sexuality”

Do you see the contradiction? The first statement clearly states that this conference is only intended for those who claim to be same-sex-attracted, with the implication that they are also those who claim to be celibate with these desires. Whereas the second and more prominent mission statement clearly defines that this conference is meant for all LGBT people, beyond those who merely claim to be “same sex attracted.”

This kind of duplicity in the communication of Revoice is also becoming common parlance in the discourses over this issue throughout social media. Such deception in communication is known today as “Doublespeak.” In his book, The New Doublespeak, William Lutz identifies doublespeak as:

“. . . language that is at variance with its real or purported meaning. It is language that conceals or prevents thought, rather than the extending thought. Doublespeak is not a matter of subjects and verbs agreeing, it is a matter of words and facts agreeing.”[2]

Such misuse of these terms and meanings will inevitably result in words being used to mean whatever the speaker wants them to mean. The result is chaos in our discourse. And chaos in our discourse is usually an indication of disorder in our thoughts and actions. Chaos is where the enemy reigns. And the same misuse of language echoes from what happened in Nashville Presbytery and its CJB.

Deception Point #2: “Revoice’s” promotion that the homosexual attracted individuals actually “struggle” with their homosexual desires. 

This is the central issue behind the question of whether homosexual desires are sinful or not. This one question has proliferated social media, conferences, and publishing labors in and around the PCA. Two recent works have been put forth which provided sound exegesis on this matter. The essential concern here is whether homosexual desires are necessarily causative to homosexual behavior and are thus sinful themselves just as the desires for any other sinful behavior.[3] Yet, those who say that such desires are not sinful have been forced to re-define the very biblical terms that clearly reveal them to be sinful. Instead of the biblical term “desire” they use non-biblical terms like “orientation”, “attraction”, and “propensity” to deem them not sinful. To be sure, it is clearly a mark of deception afoot to willingly substitute divinely inspired terminology in scripture for uninspired man-centered terminology, all to absolve man of sins before God.

But the problem we have today is that the ‘gay-Christian’ community refuses to acknowledge such desires are sinful. In fact, they profess that to expect individuals with homosexual desires to repent of them would be a destructive burden to them, tantamount to denying who they were created to be. Hence, these individuals have no problem embracing these desires which only fuels their identity as a ‘gay-Christians.’

They embrace it and do so proudly. They confess no need to neither repent for these desires nor pursue any efforts at mortification. And why would they if they are not sinful? Their claim to exercise celibacy as a gay-Christian affords them no virtue in light of this. In fact, James 1 assures us that their claim to celibacy won’t be long lived. They will eventually engage in homosexual conduct. It is inevitable.

Here is a sampling of some of the main speakers at “Revoice” regarding their thoughts on whether their homosexual desires are sinful or not, or rather, whether they really struggle with them:

“I really think the most important thing is, I really like being gay and I really like being Catholic” ~Eve Tushnet

“I believe my same-sex attractions are broken, but I do not believe they are sinful. It is not a sin for me to be attracted to another man, in the same way it is not sinful for you (a man) to be attracted to a woman.” ~Stephen Moss, Organizer of Revoice

 “Simply experiencing attraction to the same sex (or being gay) is not in itself a morally culpable sin.” ~Nate Collins

“SSA can be a product of the Fall—like blindness—and yet not be a morally culpable sin.” ~Preston Sprinkle

“I do not believe homosexuality in itself is a sin as that would imply our basic human desires for things such as intimacy and beauty would be inherently sinful.” ~Jeb Ralston

“My main worry with some of the “renunciation” and “surrender” and “death to self” language that Christians use in relation to homosexuality is that, for most people, it will end up implying that we believe all aspects of “being gay” are sinful. This is a devastating burden for many same-sex attracted Christians to bear” ~Wesley Hill

Deception Point #3: “Revoice” alleges to affirm an historic biblical view of marriage  

Many of the PCA supporters of “Revoice” are quick to point out how the conference upholds a biblical view of marriage and human sexuality. Indeed, they certainly seem to when they state:

“We believe that the Bible restricts sexual activity to the context of a marriage covenant, which is defined in the Bible as the emotional, spiritual, and physical union of a man and a woman that is ordered toward procreation. At the same time, we also believe that the Bible honors those who live out an extended commitment to celibacy, and that unmarried people should play a uniquely valuable role in the lives of local faith communities.”

However, just one paragraph further they also state:

“A Christian sexual ethic that is life-giving for all people, including LGBT people, is not something that we can simply assume we already possess, but must instead be a goal that all Christians—straight and nonstraight—continually attempt to construct and refine anew in their own cultural context. Settling for less than this results in a version of the traditional sexual ethic whose cultural relevance might not be immediately apparent to populations of people who live at the margins of our society. For these individuals, a culturally irrelevant sexual ethic simply doesn’t feel livable.”

The immediate question is how can a biblical view of marriage and sexuality, that has been consistently taught in both Old and New Testaments and held by Christians for two millennia, now be relative where both straight and gay individual’s need “to construct and refine anew in their own cultural context”? If such a biblical standard as sexual standards for marriage and sexual activity need to be refined to accommodate diverse cultural contexts, what else in the Scriptures need to be changed to accommodate these diverse cultural contexts? Once again, where doublespeak is present, deception and falsehood is afoot.

It is clear that the “Revoice” conference represents an escalation toward the full acceptance of practicing homosexuals in all areas of ministry in the PCA, including the ordination of ministers. As one would also expect, much deception has emanated from the organizers of this conference.

But more importantly, many PCA pastors themselves have now been advocating to make acceptance of such a movement in the PCA more appetizing, all in the name of inclusion. If Presbyteries like Nashville cannot possess the integrity and godliness to discipline their own when their pastor goes astray, then we should expect standards of biblical fidelity and pastoral holiness to increasingly diminish across the PCA. Additionally, we should also expect an increase in such conflicting and impotent opinions from the SJC for a fear of man over the fear of God. However, the highest court in the PCA is the General Assembly and not the SJC. So maybe there is hope.

Dr. Chuck Williams is a minister in the Presbyterian Church in America, recently retired as a U.S. Army Chaplain, and is a Postgraduate Student at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland.

Chuck Williams, “What Do You Think?” The Aquila Report, September 4, 2016, accessed June 1, 2018.

[2] William Lutz, The New Doublespeak: Why No One Knows What Anyone’s Saying Anymore (New York, NY: Harper Collins Publishers, 1996), 4.

[3] Denny Burke and Heath Lambert, Transforming Homosexuality (Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing, 2015), p.39-60. And Richard Phillips, “Looming Debate Over SSA,” The Aquila Report, February 16, 2018, accessed May 30, 2018.

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The Multi Cult and the Desolation of Europe

Jun 1, 2018

OK, another week, another dozen or so cases of Europe going down the gurgler, mainly because of patently failed multiculturalism policies, and a political ideology known as Islam. One can never write too often about all this, because the cases are never-ending.

And you can pick your country here – all throughout the UK and Western Europe we see the same problems over and over again, from Scandinavia down to the Mediterranean. Letting in masses of immigrants who are not very keen on the values and beliefs of the host nation is always going to end up ugly.

And all these examples would simply scratch the surface of reported cases, but imagine how many more unreported cases there are. Things are getting so bad that one can just barely offer more than a bullet-point summary on this. Indeed, with so many stories to run with, let me just offer the headline, date, the opening lines from each article, and the link.

Greek mayor: “Women are afraid to go out alone, we keep our children inside our homes”

May 31, 2018

Spyros Galinis, the mayor of Mytilene, the capital of the island of Lesbos, told Greek news outlet Iefimerida, that the people in his city are increasingly concerned about migrants. Galinis said that “Women are afraid to go out of their homes, we keep our children in our houses”. According to the mayor, Lesbos is exhausted of the ongoing dangerous situation with migrants. The people of Lesbos were once represented by the media as the people of solidarity, who even opened their homes to refugees from Syria. But now the situation has completely changed, as the once solidary and tolerant residents of Lesbos are facing the cruel reality of the uncontrolled mass immigration crisis that is inflicting Europe once again.

Germany: Corpus Christi procession canceled due to inability to provide safeguards against jihad attacks

May 31, 2018

There will be much, much more of this: Europeans curtailing their activities and sacrificing elements of their culture in order to guard against Islamic jihad massacres. This is the future of the United States as well, if the Left gets its way. The wound in Germany is self-inflicted, and will be in our case as well. Islamic law forbids Christians to make any public display of their faith, including processions. So this cancellation is exactly what Islamic jihadists were hoping for and striving for: the voluntary acceptance of dhimmitude and Sharia by a non-Muslim population.

German teen girl needs surgery after being violently raped by a Syrian refugee in a cellar

May 31, 2018

A brutal rape of a German teen has shocked the city of Chemnitz. A Syrian refugee attacked and raped a 15-year-old German girl in a cellar. The young girl was so badly injured that she needed surgery, tabloid Bild reports.

Axe-wielding maniac kills police dog and attacks officers before being shot in the Dutch city of Schiedam

May 30, 2018

An axe-wielding maniac killed a police dog and attacked officers before being shot by cops in the Netherlands yesterday. Dutch police shot and wounded the Syrian man after he assaulted cops trying to arrest him at an apartment in the Dutch city of Schiedam. Just hours after the bloodshed in the Netherlands yesterday evening, a policewoman was stabbed in Germany following an incident on a train approaching Flensburg central station.

French woman beaten up by Afghan asylum seekers ‘for being too lightly dressed’

May 31, 2018

A 33-year-old woman was severely beaten by two Afghan asylum seekers last week, France’s Valeurs Actuelles reports. The assault happened on a train leaving Paris. The men taunted and insulted the woman for not being dressed enough to suit them. The attack on 23 May started with verbal insults. The Afghans were reprimanding the woman for ‘showing too much cleavage’. After the train stopped at Dijon’s train station, they forced her out. The woman was kicked and beaten until she fell to the ground.

I recently wrote about a classic case in point of failed immigration policies, the elevation of Islam, and the retreat of Christianity: Sweden. See my article here:

A recent report tells us why, in part, Sweden is in such a bad way:

Swedes ‘least likely in Western Europe’ to go to church

May 31, 2018

When it comes to Europe, Sweden is the country where you’re least likely to find church-attending Christians. Yes, just 9 percent of respondents to a European survey said they went to church, according to a new study by the Pew Research Center. This was the same result as in Finland, with Denmark and Belgium just one percentage point behind.

And the ongoing horror of the UK rape gangs still needs exposure. Hal Colebatch recently wrote “What Rotherham Means”. He begins:

The revelations of unhindered Muslim sex-trafficking of thousands of young girls in British towns, including Rotherham, Rochdale and Oxford, are so gross and shocking, so monstrous, and on such a scale as to actually make response or comment difficult, except to point out that they display Britain – or a significant part of it – as a failed and broken culture.

The most shocking aspect, of course, is the craven failure on a staggering scale of the very institutions part of whose raison d’être is precisely to prevent such things: the police, the social work industries, the local government bodies, and probably, at least in some cases, parents (certainly some parents seem to have done their best, and quite properly approached the authorities, only to be ignored).

The sickening, Eloi-like passivity with which the police and social-workers behaved for fear of being accused of racism indicates mass cowardice and moral corruption on a scale again difficult to describe. The more that is revealed about this scandal the worse it seems. It is not too much to call it the worst British public/political scandal in modern history.

Finally, still on the bad news side of the ledger, this 39-minute video is well worth watching and sharing. Michelle Malkin looks in depth at the immigration crisis in Europe, and the Islamic rape gang plague:

Some good news

But lest we all get far too depressed and discouraged, I better end with a bit of good news! Here are three pieces which speak about Europeans hopefully beginning to turn things around as they decide that enough is enough:

Over 40% of western Europeans find Islam ‘incompatible’ with their values – poll

May 31, 2018

Some 42 percent of people across western Europe believe Islam is incompatible with their values, a new Pew survey has found, noting that Christian-affiliated responders are more likely to reject foreigners in their community. In recent years, Europe has experienced a record influx of asylum-seekers and migrants from predominantly Muslim countries who are fleeing conflicts across the Middle East and North Africa. The wave of migration, encouraged by the German ‘open-door’ refugee policy, has prompted a heated public debate about immigration, border control, and security policies across Europe.

A new Pew Research Center survey has found that around 42 percent of the general population across 15 western European states believe that “Islam is fundamentally incompatible” with their national values and culture. Twenty-six percent of them believe that migrants from the Middle East are dishonest.

Denmark becomes latest European country to ban burqas and niqabs

June 1, 2018

Denmark became the latest European country to ban garments that cover the face, including Islamic veils such as the niqab or burqa, after a vote in the country’s parliament. Human rights organisations criticised the move. MPs in the Scandinavian country approved the bill after it was introduced by the centre-right governing coalition, by a majority of 75 to 30, although 74 abstained.

The government said that the new law, which does not ban headscarves, turbans or the traditional Jewish skull cap, was not aimed at any religion. However, many see it as directed at the dress worn by some conservative Muslim

women, although full face veils are uncommon in the Scandinavian country

Hungary tells UNHCR: “Aiding illegal migration is not an act of humanity but a crime and security risk”

May 31, 2018

Responding to the UNHCR’s call on the Hungarian government to withdraw the “Stop Soros” bill, which was submitted on Tuesday, the foreign ministry said the top priority of the government was to ensure the security of the Hungarian people.

In a statement on Wednesday, the ministry said the UNHCR in recent years had attacked the Hungarian government more than ten times in connection with its protection of the borders against illegal immigration. The UN body argues that migrants should be free to travel between countries and that illegal border crossings should go unpunished, the ministry said.

“The Hungarian Government does not accept this,” its statement said, adding that illegal migration was not a fundamental human right. “Aiding illegal migration is not an act of humanity but a crime and security risk. Migration is a national security matter,” the ministry said.

So there is so fightback going on. Overall, Eastern Europe is doing much better in this regard than Western Europe, with nations like Poland and Hungary resisting EU multiculturalism and PC madness. The question is this however: has the rot set in so far, so deep, and for so long, that it may now be too late to sufficiently turn things around?

Time will tell I guess, but it is looking very bleak indeed in Europe right now. And much of the rest of the West is not much better.

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BSSM – soaking, declaring and spinning into delusion.


Rick Becker once again warns believers of the greatest enemy of the cross, false teachers, specifically those at BSSM – Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry.

Rick writes:

BSSM – soaking, declaring and spinning into delusion

Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry is a risky business.  Students are “taught” how to heal, and are encouraged to “take risks” which really means to ignore the boundaries clearly laid out in scripture.  BSSM is simply a school of ‘simony’ that is producing thousands of severely deluded ‘revivalists’ who believe that they are a part of a mighty end time army that will usher in the kingdom of God.  Two of our previous posts exposed their false teachings and methodology:

The fruits of Bethel church – ashamed of the gospel, flirting with the occult.

Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry – Normalizing Mysticism.

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It is Okay to Call Christians Bigots But Don’t You Dare Criticize Islam: Tommy Robinson is Proof of That

Absolute Truth from the Word of God

“Where is Tommy Robinson?  A question whose answer should be demanded rather than merely asked. We all know where Prince Harry is but not where Tommy, arrested Friday outside a court in Leeds, England, is. Modern day Merry England has become far more nightmare than fairytale, as it steadily works its way toward ugly police state status.” source

Who would have ever thought that speaking Truth would become a crime, but not just any crime; a crime so hideous and unthinkable, that the person is arrested and incarcerated with NO due process of law.  He had no chance of calling anyone, or asking for a court appointed attorney. The judge even ordered the press to keep quiet about the arrest.  The world now waits to see if Tommy Robinson is even alive.

Tommy Robinson was sentenced by the political authorities in London to 13 months in Jail.  His crime?  Reporting on…

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The Mailbag: What did you think of Beth Moore’s “A Letter to My Brothers”?

Michelle Lesley

Readers- Before commenting on this article, please familiarize yourself with my comments/e-mail/social media policies and my responses to objections about warning against false teachers. I will not be publishing any comments or responding to any e-mails that are covered by said policies or article.

Did you see Beth Moore’s recent blog post “A Letter to My Brothers“? What do you think about what she said?

The first thing you need to know about Beth Moore, if you don’t already, is that she is a false teacher who is living in current, unrepentant sin. She teaches false doctrine and twists Scripture to scratch the itching ears of her followers. She sinfully and rebelliously preaches to men, and she yokes in “ministry” with false teachers. These are not my personal opinions, these are verifiable facts. (See my article Five Reasons It’s Time to Exercise Moore Discernment for…

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New Apostolic Reformation Information Links

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The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a dominionist movement. NAR doctrine also asserts that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of Prophet and Apostle.

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a title coined by Charles Wagner to describe a movement that seeks to establish a fourth house within Christendom (distinct from Catholicism, Protestantism and Orthodox Christianity).

Leading figures in this seemingly loosely organized movement claim that these Prophets and Apostles alone have the power and authority to execute God’s plans and purposes on earth. They believe they are laying the foundation for a global church, governed by them.

They place a greater emphasis on dreams, visions and extra-biblical revelation, than they do on the Bible, claiming that their revealed teachings and reported experiences (e.g. trips to heaven, face-to-face conversations with Jesus, visits by angels) are all valid means by which God is revealing a new…

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